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Events / Re: No Star Bash May 9/10 2015
« on: April 21, 2015, 08:36:18 pm »
make it happen!

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Events / Re: No Star Bash May 9/10 2015
« on: April 19, 2015, 08:00:01 pm »
dude no worries, this event is gonna be huge already. 100 drivers?!

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Events / Re: No Star Bash May 9/10 2015
« on: April 19, 2015, 05:46:18 pm »
alright boys who's going and who's driving?

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General Discussion / Re: what would you like to see in an event?
« on: April 13, 2015, 08:04:57 pm »
ohhh i like that idea!!!

closest to the table game

or like other tureck'd type games....

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Builds / Re: Blue Silhouette
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:38:46 pm »


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Builds / Re: my first build!
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:38:02 pm »
nice!! looking forward to pics

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give me a 13b engine and I will make you one lol

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General Discussion / Re: what would you like to see in an event?
« on: April 09, 2015, 06:28:17 pm »
keep the feedback coming!!!

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General Discussion / what would you like to see in an event?
« on: March 30, 2015, 10:05:58 pm »
Price?
How many runs?
How long?
Amenities?
Course?
Instruction?
Competition?

Throw ideas around

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Tech Talk / Re: Good tires / Bad tires
« on: March 25, 2015, 07:36:44 pm »
first of all good on you for buying new tires. It's a much better way to go then wasting time grabbing used ones.

I've used Federal 595SS, Achilles ATR, Sunny S3800 and Wanli something or another. My decisions have always been dictated by price however.

For an FRS you don't want to go with something too grippy and plan to run higher tire pressures to make it easier to slide. 235/40/18 or 225/40/18?? Might be a little rough for an FRS....

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Tech Talk / 2015 MDU Tech Requirements
« on: March 25, 2015, 10:27:00 am »
Midwest Drift Union 2015 Rulebook

Please Read:

These are the Midwest Drift Union Competition Rules and Regulations for the 2015

season. Although we try our best to avoid updates midseason, they may occur. Please

verify you are using the most current version when reviewing throughout the season.

NOTE: This rulebook is not as indepth as the Formula DRIFT Professional Rulebook.

The Midwest Drift Union rulebook should not lead you astray, however the Formula

DRIFT rulebook is updated more frequently than ours and we may not catch every

update and/or change they make. If you eventually plan on competing in Formula

DRIFT, please take the time to familiarize yourself with their rulebook in addition to ours,

so you can plan your build out accordingly and save yourself both valuable time and

money. If you have any questions, feel free to contact Nick Swann at

nick@mdudrift.com





1. Closed face helmet is required. SA2010 is required. SA2005 is allowed if

manufactured date is after 3/2008 and clearly marked on the helmet. Helmet must be in

good condition and show no signs of damage. Chin strap must be present and fastened.

Open face helmets are not allowed. M helmets are not allowed. DOT helmets are not

allowed.


2. All drivers are required to wear long pants, closed toe shoes and sleeved shirts. Long

sleeve shirts are not required.


A. Tandem Drivers: In addition to the aforementioned requirements, tandem drivers

are required to wear a “racing suit” which must be made of fire resistant material

and certified to SFI spec 3/2 or greater or homologated to “FIA 2000” specs,

which effectively covers the body, including neck, ankles, and wrist.


3. Pit area must be kept clean of all trash at end of event. All used tires must be taken

with you at the end of the event.


4. If you spill any automotive fluids, you must clean it up immediately. Notify the staff of

any spills. Most of the tracks that we operate at have facilities for the disposal of

automotive fluid. DO NOT dispose of any motor oil, antifreeze, and gear oil in the trash

cans.


5. Driver must be 17 or older and possess a valid driver's license. If under 18, parent or

legal guardian must be present and sign waiver (please see staff).


6. Driver’s meetings are mandatory. If you do not attend the driver’s meeting without

making prior arrangements, you will not be allowed on track. No refunds will be given.


7. Passengers are not allowed in cars on track. If a driver brings a passenger, they will

be sent directly off track and can return to the back of the line after they drop off their

passenger.


8. Common sense is required.


9. Driver must be ready to rock at all times. STAY ALERT!


10. No whining. You can always pack up and go home.


11. Drivers must pay very close attention to all flaggers and course workers. If any of

their instructions are ignored, the driver will be, at a minimum, kicked off the track for the

session. If the offense is repeated or unsafe, the driver will be ejected from the event.

No refunds will be given.


12. Failure to follow the rules or any instruction from racetrack staff will result in

immediate ejection from the event and, depending on severity of offense, cause you to

be banned from all future events hosted by the group at all tracks. We’ll also make fun

of you and tell all of our friends that run other events.




Vehicle Requirements

General Safety

1. General vehicle Inspection may include inspection of brakes, suspension, engine,

drivetrain and chassis for proper operation, condition, and potential issues.


2. Everything loose in car must be removed, includes floor mats, dirty clothes, old cd

cases, empty packs of smokes, cans and anything else floating around in your car.

Dispose of all trash in track provided garbage cans.


3. Fire extinguishers are required for all cars. Fire extinguishers must be securely

mounted within reach of driver while in seat with harness on. Driver must be able to

remove it easily for use. Minimum 2lb required. NO SHARING WITH FRIENDS, YOU

MUST HAVE YOUR OWN. THEY ARE ONLY $20.


Technical Inspection:

1. No fluids can be leaking or dripping from the car. If signs of a fluid leak are present,

evidence must be shown that leak no longer exists.


2. Heat shield is required around the brake and clutch master cylinders for any cars with

the exhaust side of the engine on the same side as the driver. OE heat shield is

acceptable. Bent up license plates or other painted/coated surfaces are not

acceptable.


3. Coolant overflow is required on all cars. Oil overflow is required on cars which have

removed or modified OE oil recovery system.


4. A gas cap must be present and be completely sealed. A firewall is required for all fuel

system components inside the driver's compartment. Stainless steel braided lines can

pass through driver's compartment, but all fittings and unions must be behind firewall or

be similarly shielded.


5. All fluid hoses must be the proper hose to use for the install application and purpose.

All hoses must have correct material and construction. Rubber hoses should show no

sign of wear or weak spots. All fuel hoses must use fuel line clamps. Worm gear

clamps are not allowed on fuel lines.


6. The exhaust must be present and exit outside of the body of the car. It is

recommended that noise from exhaust not exceed 65dB. This rule can change

depending on venue.



Lighting and Electrical:

1. The battery must be securely tied down with a plastic or metal strap and proper

hardware. No bungee cord, zip ties, etc. are allowed.


2. If the battery is located in driver's compartment, the battery must be sealed and

non­venting. Non­sealed batteries are allowed in driver's compartment if it is in a fully

sealed box, properly mounted and vented outside the car.


3. Brake lights must be operational. At least 2 brake lights must come on when using

the brake pedal.


4. ​Hazard lights at front and rear of the car must be operational. The hazard switch must

be located in the cabin and within reach of the driver while they are strapped into seat.


5. An OE key must completely shut off the car immediately. If the OE key assembly is

not used, a kill switch must be used to immediately shut off the car. The kill switch

needs to be easily accessible from outside of the car and the location needs to be

clearly marked “KILL SWITCH.”


6. All wiring should be protected, insulated and properly mounted.


Suspension:

1. Ball joints and suspension bushings must be in good condition and have no

excessive play or clunking.


2. Wheel bearings must have zero play.


3. Steering must be smooth in operation and exhibit no binding.


4. All lug nuts must be present and properly torqued and have proper thread

engagement. If using bolt on spacers, all lugs nuts attaching the spacer to the hub must

be present.


Body and Glass:

1. Body panels are required. Body panels include the fenders, hood, and hatch/trunk.

Due to the nature of drifting, bumpers and side skirts are not required at all times,

although they are highly recommended during competition.


2. Tow hooks/straps are required front and rear. Factory tow hooks are allowed as long

as the driver accepts that their car may be damaged when being towed. Tow

hooks/straps should be easily found and painted a highly visible color and their location

marked. Soft tow straps are recommended. Please label TOW on your car.


3. The hood and trunk must be securely latched either using the OE latch or

aftermarket pins or latches.


4. The windshield, rear window and fixed side windows must be present. Door windows

must be operational if installed. Lexan or similar shatter resistant polycarbonate can be

used. Windshields need to be 1/4" thick. Windshields must have center supports and

must be bolted or riveted through the window frame. Spacing is a maximum of 12" and

there must be at least 4 fasteners on each side. Side and rear windows need to be 1/8"

thick.


Roll Cage:

A roll cage is not required to participate in any event. However a roll cage is required to

tandem and compete.


Construction Materials: Roll cages may be constructed of either Seamless Mild Steel

(DOM) or Seamless Chromoly (4130) tubing appropriately sized for the weight of the

vehicle. Mild Steel (ERW) is not permitted.

Tubing Diameter: Tubing diameter is determined by the weight of the vehicle, race

prepped, minus driver and fuel. ie: Up to 3500 lbs ­ 1.500” x 0.095” Chromoly (4130) or

Mild Steel (DOM)


Mounting Points: The roll cage shall be mounted to the floor of the chassis in at least six

(6) points with either plates or boxes. All attachment points must be mounted to these

plates or boxes and be welded three­hundred sixty (360) degrees. Mounting plates can

be no smaller than two (2) inches on any side and have a minimum thickness of 0.080”.

Mounting Points ­ Bolt in the cage ­ The roll cage shall be fastened to the floor of the

chassis in at least six (6) points.

The attachment points of a bolt­in cage to the body must use plates, 3/16 inch thick

minimum, to sandwich the body. A minimum of three (3) bolts are required per mounting

plate. Each plate must be atleast 3/16 inch thick. All hardware must be at least SAE

Grade 5 or better and be a minimum of 5/16 inch diameter. All nuts must be held

securely by safety wire, lock washer, nylock, or jam nut.

Welds: All welds must conform to the American Welding Society D1.1:2002, Structural

Welding Code, Steel Chapter 10, Tubular Structures. All welds shall be continuous,

three hundred sixty (360) degrees, around each mounting point of each tube. All welds

shall be visually inspected and must meet the following criteria in order to be

acceptable.

1. All welds shall be free of any cracks

2. Thorough penetration must exist between the tube and base material.

3. All craters, if any shall be filled to the cross section of the weld.

4. Undercut shall be no more than 0.01 inch deep.

Inspection Hole: All tubes must have a 3/16 inch, but no greater than 1⁄4 inch, hole drilled

in a non­critical area as to verify wall thickness.

Bends: No part of any tube shall show signs of crimping or wall failure. All bends must

be mandrel bends, crush bends are not accepted.


Main Hoop: The roll cage main hoop should be constructed from one continuous length

of tubing and be as close to the full width of the interior and as close to the roof as

possible with no more than four (4) bends totaling no more than one hundred eighty

(180) degrees +/­ ten (10) degrees.

Diagonal Brace: At least one (1) diagonal brace shall be used during construction of the

main hoop. The diagonal should be in one continuous path. Refer to diagram 1.0 One

end should attach to the mounting plate, or main hoop as close to the mounting plate as

possible, diagonally opposed to the drivers head. The other end shall mount to the

corner, or horizontal part, of the main hoop about the drivers head, within twelve (12)

inches of the drivers side corner. It is recommended the diagonal brace be one

continuous length of tubing.


Harness Bar: The main hoop shall contain a horizontal mounted harness bar, which is

to be constructed of like material, and be located no higher than shoulder height. The

harness bar must extend from each leg of the main hoop and intersect the diagonal

brace.


Front/Side Hoops/Halo ­ All hoops and/or down tubes must be mounted to the floor, as

forward as possible, and following the “A” pillar and door frame back to the main hoop.

There shall be a tube connecting each of the two (2) side hoops at the top of the

windshield mounted as close to the roof as possible. Each side hoop shall contain no

more than four (4) bends totaling no more than one­hundred eighty (180) degrees.

Halo Hoop: A Halo Hoop is one (1) continuous length of tubing. The halo extends from

the main hoop, in a forward direction, following the roof line about the doors and

windshield. The halo must be connected to the floor with two (2) front down tubes. The

Halo bar must not contain more than four (4) bends totaling no more than one­hundred

eighty (180) degrees.

Front Hoop: A front hoop is one (1) continuous length of tubing. Starting at the floor, as

far forward as possible, and then following the “A” pillar up to the roof. Then, following

the roof, windshield line across the vehicle and down alongside the other “A” pillar to

the floor. No more than four (4) bends totaling no greater than one hundred eighty (180)

degrees will be permitted. The front hoop must be connected to the main hoop by

means of two (2) horizontal bars, one (1) on each side above the doors.

Rear Braces: The main hoop must have two (2) braces extending to the rear. The

braces must attach as near to the top of the main hoop as possible and no more than

six (6) inches below the top. The rear braces must not contain any bends. There must

be a minimum of thirty (30) degrees between the rear braces and the main hoop.

Diagram 3.0 When viewed from the top the rear braces are to form no more than a

one­hundred five (105) degree angle Diagram 3.1 and no less than a seventy­five (75)

degree angle.


Door Bars: All cars are required to have at a minimum two (2) bars across each front

door opening. The door bars may run parallel to one another or form an “X”. Diagram

4.0 If a parallel design is used a minimum of two (2) vertical bars must be installed,

joining the upper and lower bars.


Padding: All roll cage surfaces that may contact the driver should be padded with

high­density padding. It is not required though recommended that all padding meet SFI

specification 45.1

Drivers that fail to follow this rule will not be eligible to tandem.


Roll Cage FAQ:

1. Aftermarket roll bar, at a minimum, is required for all convertibles for road course

events. For parking lot events, if no roll bar is present, roof must be up and properly

fastened.

2. 6­point roll cage with harness bar and door bars required for Group A.

3. Roll cage must have X or NASCAR bars on both front doors.

4. Must have diagonal in main hoop extending from above driver's head to passenger

floor and harness bar must extend the full length of the main hoop and be positioned for

proper harness mounting.

5. Rear mounting bars must tie in at the rear shock tower.

6. Front cage design can be halo or a­pillar bars. Roof bar is required if using a­pillar

bars.

7. Dash bar is recommended but not required.

8. Minimum tubing specification for all cars is 1.5”x0.095 DOM SAE 1018.

9. Cage must comply with current SCCA/NASA specification.

10. For bolt­in cages, OE crash structure cannot be removed or modified. Ebay or

“Tuner” bolt­in cages are not sufficient for tandem.

11. Roll bar padding is required wherever the driver or passenger may come in contact

with the roll cage, i.e. halo, door bars, lower a­pillar bar. Roll bar padding can be any

type of foam padding designed to be used for this purpose. No pool noodles, home

depot pipe insulation, etc. SFI rated padding is recommended but not required.



Harnesses and Seats:

1. Harnesses must be properly mounted and not expired. Harnesses must be FIA or SFI

rated and within the date range specified on the belts.


2. Harnesses must be mounted using correct hardware. If using eye bolts and bolting

through the floor, must use fender washers on both sides to spread the load. Harness

shoulder straps must be mounted to a roll cage or separate harness bar and should not

be outside of 20* of horizontal. The seat cannot be used as a guide for the harness. No

harness mounting points can be attached to the seat or seat rails, they must be

attached to the chassis.


3. If car does not have a roll cage, a harness bar can be used to mount the shoulder

belts when using a 4, 5 or 6­point harness. Must meet mounting requirements listed in

item 2.


4. 4, 5 or 6­point harness required for car with a roll cage installed. 5­point belt

recommended.


5. If harnesses are not properly installed and in compliance with FIA or SFI

specifications, you will not be allowed to drive until this rule can be met.

6. Please refer to manufacturer's specs for proper installation and maintenance

procedures.


7. If stock seats or non­FIA approved reclinable bucket seats are used, stock seat belt

must be used. Aftermarket harnesses are not allowed to be used with these seats.


8. If race seats are intended to be used with stock seat belt, the lap belt part of the seat

belt must pass through the holes in the side of the race seat.

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Events / Re: 2015 schedule!
« on: March 20, 2015, 12:28:04 pm »
LOL.

SO!! but at least it'll be fun!

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Events / Re: 2015 schedule!
« on: March 20, 2015, 11:53:57 am »
they do have a tire changer.

i can't comment on how much tire it'll eat up. My guess is an FRS shouldn't kill tires too bad.

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Events / Re: 2015 schedule!
« on: March 20, 2015, 09:32:06 am »
added speedrome events.

This year is out of control. SO MUCH DRIFTING!!

Also keep in mind only the MDU events and Street Driven Tour are competitions. Everything else is just open friendly drifting. :)

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